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			<dc:creator>mome rath</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:58:34 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Well well well... VSE invades x0xb0x is it then?
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Good stuff as always, ReWire. And an instrumental at that!]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>kokoon</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:58:01 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[oh. damn. forgot about the CV out...
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how about just raising separate voltages for everything but the CV?]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 13:00:06 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[try replacing r178 with a 2.4k
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that should give the same 12v increase
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with the 5.333v at 5.333v
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assuming you cranked your 5.33v to 5.6v
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the width pot will keep the x0x in tune
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but it wont ouput 1v per octave to slave other synths to
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which is probably not a concern for most people]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>kokoon</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 11:16:09 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[the &quot;width&quot; VCO trimpot takes care of the changed CV scaling so that's nothing to worry about.
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what value would you recommend for R178 or R179 replacement? i don't wanna fry the 74AC174... maybe put a trimpot there?]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 07:09:16 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[im still trying to figure out why modding the 5.333
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would have an effect on the vcf
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but here is my current theory
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the 12v is a fucntion of the 5.333v via r178 and r179
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so as you turn up the 5.33v you are also turning up the 12v
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so the gate voltage and subsequent envelope votlages
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are all higher
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so the vca gets turned on a bit more
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and the vcf gets a bit more control voltage
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and the gain in the feedback gets turned up a bit
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so the frequency response is higher and more resonant
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turning up the 5.333 shouldnt have too terrible an effect
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the only chip which will care much is the 74ac174
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it is run off the 5.333 but only recieves 5v signals
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from the microcontroller
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since the inputs arent schmitt trigger inputs
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there is a chance that the output stage wont turn on fully
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and could be sourcing a lot of current internally
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this would merely get the 74ac174 really hot until it fried
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a pain to replace but not expensive
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the other draw back is that the cv is no longer 1v per octave
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and that it may not be entirely linear anymore
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if the output stages arent working correctly
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if r178 was increased or r179 decreased
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you could get the same increase in the 12v
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without having to change the 5.333v]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>kokoon</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 05:37:39 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[i've done the high beta thing, the PSU &quot;warble mod&quot; but haven't done any resonance boost mods - everybody says it doesn't work right.
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that thing with the PS trimpot works perfectly for me, i haven't noticed any degradation in lower end... can you explain what you're hearing a bit more?
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if it was possible i'd push that trimpot even a bit further but i'm not sure how it'd effect circuits other than the VCF (digital? VCO?) 
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i haven't got the slightest idea what it does technically but it sounds right. maybe i'll smoke the machine soon because of that... can anyone say anything about this?]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>REwire</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 01:57:37 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>evilxsystems wrote:</cite>How much did you pay for it?</div></blockquote>
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$500 for it used, last run.  I paid $1000 for my broken 303, this was chump change.
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I am thoroughly confused about what's the easiest most perfect way to get the resonance right.  I keep reading different suggestions, from trimpots, changing transistors, resistors, testing beta values etc.
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Someone needs to just spell it out clearly.]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>CoolColJ</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 18:57:19 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[put the basss boost mod in and that will sort out the tinny sound <img src="http://forums.adafruit.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" />
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personally I prefer the filter feedback method to boosting resonance]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>evilxsystems</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:09:09 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[How much did you pay for it?
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just curious]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>REwire</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 10:50:43 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Since I bought mine assembled and have only experience soldering cables, it'll take a while to grasp modifying any components.  The trimpot I cranked was the 5.3333 one as suggested by Kokoon in the Resonance thread.  It sounded OK to get that whistley sound but if I left it there, normal 303 bassy sounds were tinny and thin.]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>sash</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 03:59:17 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[oooops, I meant &quot;increase R109 to 22k&quot;, sorry.]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>sash</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 03:57:23 -0400</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[very goood sound  ! the high resonance just before the half of the sound is like a real 303 ! You said you cranked the power trimpot to max, do you mean the trimpot on the Power Supply board, not the one in the VCF section ? And, by the way, did you made the &quot;resonance boosting mod&quot; proposed by Ladyada changing R97, R108, R109 or R112 ?
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I have my x0x327 kit still unbuilt and I plan to decrease R108 to 2k (not 1.8k as proposed) and increase R 112 to 22k, but will use a socket for R108 (if it's too whistling, i'll go back to 2.2k).
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I heard also that the 2sc536F transistor at Q11 should be the highest beta (hfe), let's try...]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>REwire</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 03:07:53 -0400</pubDate>
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			<title>First XOX Demo - used as a synth</title>
			<description><![CDATA[I bought my XOXBOX used off of a guy on the Analogue Heaven list after my 303 took a dump and been in repair.  I can't compare them side by side but love the fact that this has midi.  I went nuts and just played it all over the place, multitracked, no Eq and some delay only on lead lines.  only non XOX are drum samples. I tried to fill the track as wide as possible using saws only as low DnB type lines and pulse for everything else.  About the Resonance - I cranked the power trimpot to max to get those highs but that kinda ruins the lower sounds and response so it's back and forth on different parts.
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Thanks for checking it out and hope this shows the range of the XOXBOX.
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Dan
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P.S. I went to see how my 303 was doing today and heard it for a moment and went ,&quot;Ick - that's what the real thing sounds like, so nasally and weak!&quot;]]></description>
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