pangrus wrote:Very good job!
I've upgraded my xOxbOx this morning, is better to have the triplet mode than fast editing...perharps the lenght of a triplet pattern should be 12?
SokkOS is amazing, far better than the original TB303 sequencer!
i agree that its amazing and far better than the original xox sequencer.. its however as poor as the original xox sequencer when it comes to sequence creation.. its really just for all notes triggered 1 bar patterns, the most primitiv 303 sequence style... dagagdagaddagadda...Because many just want to use the 303 to make goa style and not true acid that dont hurts many..
the true acid guys can use the real 303.. But the xox is doomed to be allways just one of the failed clones because it cant sound like a real 303 at all..
All theese real funky 303 lines that really work it allmost 3 dimensional when moving the filter knob, because of acc/slide programing, just dont work... theese lines that totally change theire rhytmical content just by changes on the filter knob.. all the more complikated slide figures that totaly change as soon you add an accent...
The interaction between slide and acc is screwed because the internal event timing of the xox sequencer is totally different to that of the real 303.. therfore its impossible to transfer 303 lines that use the funk factor to a xoxbox directly.. they just dont match.. and even when you try to rewrite the sequence to make it match.. it will sound stiff and just banned against a real 303 because the way acc and slides are performed along the timeline is just too different.. there is no legato independent from slide for example.. and the gate length is not wright.. and the slide is performed at the step start..not the step end... That all makes a real 303 sequence that uses theese features very elastic sounding.. like a bouncing ball
In regard of the sequencer the xox cant match with a real 303.. It sounds really stiff..like a stupid robot.. or just like you know it from any sequencer.. the 303 is not just its sound engine. The typical 303 clone trap.. all the failed clones share this problem.. you cant make something sounding like a 303 when you dont make the sequencer shuffel the events like in a 303.
That is not Sokan´s fault.. he just expanded on the adafruit design ... therefore included the non 303 event timing and missing legato..
and therefore his os also prevents the xox sounding like a 303.
I dont know if it spossible to change the internal timing without rewriting everything..and add a legato without slide
If so maybe see this a s a suggestion for future versions.. that would however dont replay the older sequences the same way as you know it..therfore Sokan himself is probably not into a version that sounds like a real 303...
However.. I just have to oppose that any xox sequencer is better as the original 303 sequencer as long the endresult sounds so stiff in relation. And that has nothing to do with the input and edit concept.. I see why people like the original adafruit style to do it step by step.. its a different workflow han in a real 303 but defently an alternativ option..so
Everything else could stay the same as friends of this concept know it...but the way the acc and slide events are timed would be different.. ANd therfore older sequences would play different.. even when the slide start is just shifted slightly and the gatelength of single steps would be slightly longer... the result sounds so much different that its allmost like a different sequence.. its like switching the allive knob.. But when you liked the robotik feel of your original sequence..thta would be gone than..
and.. the missing legato event.. that wouldnt effect older sequences that just dont use it.. but how to include it? the tempo knob?
For a real 303 feel you need legato without slide...that actually plays a key role there.. because that is part of the acc/slide interaction of a real 303..and can create lots of expression and alterartion of patterns when you legato notes and add the slide acc only to a later step.. that makes it funky.. and is actually responsible in part for the famous 303 screaming when the slide kicks in after the acc on the same note .. that really changes a lot
so a xox just cant scream like a real 303 or have the funky "wuoong".. The xox just makes "woong" instead..