westfw wrote:Then there's the gEDA suite from gnu; IIRC, KiCAD is based on this, so it has the same distribution issues WRT project source and etc. I'm not sure what the problem is there; it's not YOUR problem that people aren't able to install and use a free software package; you can always package up "standard" format files (gerber, pdf, whatever.)
True enough. I just wanted to try and be as "nice as possible" but in the end, it really doesn't matter. Providing the Gerbers and a pdf of the schematic is more than enough. A tarball of the kicad files is OK...it's cross platform and all.
Not being able to print successfully is another problem, but I assume that it's solvable (perhaps only by going to gerber and then using a gerber printer/viewer to print.)
That's my biggest pet peeve about it. The exported graphics are horrible.
I need to get another gerb viewer, and make sure it's not ruining those, too (it shouldn't; gerbers are sort of text-based, not graphical)
It certainly is "nice" that Eagle is so professionally packaged and easy to install on a wide variety of OS environments...
Exactly. Kicad does a decent job, too...but I think the "use multiple applications with odd names for every step" is a bit of a put-off. It wasn't until I really tried
to understand it that it made sense.
josheeg wrote:I sent my ki arduino kicad arduino out to be made just do a google search for kicad and you get autorouters that are seperate freeroute and a schematic symbol creator on a webpage and tutorials on kicad.
I'm relatively comfortable with kicad, now...and freeroute is an excellent app. How did your PCB turn out?
Go with it the automation it provides makes eagle look silly. Also the design flow of make the scematic before deciding on the capacitor size package is nice.
Once you've gotten used to it, it makes a lot of sense. I do like the fact that the schematic is separated from the physical component list, too. That
was my biggest stumbling block in trying to figure it out. I also found a nice eagle script that can convert libraries, so your SparkFun parts list can be turned into a kicad library :D
All that to say..."thanks!" You both have essentially said what I was thinking deep down inside, but wasn't ready to admit. ;) I think I will stick with kicad, and just kick back some donations to the developers as I'm able -- I'll probably devote a percentage of the return from the PCBs/kits to kicad.