My daughter and I built Ice Tube clock for her.
It worked fine, and is one of our favorite projects. Thanks for the kit!
Here is a little note from my daughter:
The alarm clock got me out of bed great! Thanx!
A while later it stopped working - after a drop
The clock beeps when plugged in, but nothing lights up on the tube.
We just measured the voltages that troubleshooting guide mentions:
Pin 1 of IC3 : 9.00
Pin 3 of IC3 : 4.99
Bias voltage: 4.72
Boost with no tube or VFD chip: 57
With VFD chip installed it is 47 volts instead of 14-16!
I am not sure what to check/do next; any help is appreciated
Thanks!
Ice Tube clock stopped working
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Re: Ice Tube clock stopped working
The most fragile component in the kit is the tube. It can easily be damaged by the shock of a drop. I wouldn't expect the VFD chip to be damaged by the shock of a drop itself. But I suppose it is possible that something shorted in the tube that took out the VFD chip too.
We do have spare tubes in the store. We do not carry the Max6921 VFD chips, but you should be able to order them direct from Maxim.
We do have spare tubes in the store. We do not carry the Max6921 VFD chips, but you should be able to order them direct from Maxim.
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Re: Ice Tube clock stopped working
I suspected something like thatadafruit_support wrote:The most fragile component in the kit is the tube. It can easily be damaged by the shock of a drop. I wouldn't expect the VFD chip to be damaged by the shock of a drop itself. But I suppose it is possible that something shorted in the tube that took out the VFD chip too.
I found MAX6921AQI at Mouser. Is that the part?adafruit_support wrote:We do have spare tubes in the store. We do not carry the Max6921 VFD chips, but you should be able to order them direct from Maxim.
Thanks!
- adafruit_support_bill
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Re: Ice Tube clock stopped working
That is the oneI found MAX6921AQI at Mouser. Is that the part?
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Re: Ice Tube clock stopped working
I got the replacement VFD chip, but with it boost voltage is still 47 volts.
What do I do now?
Thanks!
What do I do now?
Thanks!
- adafruit_support_bill
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Re: Ice Tube clock stopped working
And the tube still does not light?
It is possible that one or more traces or component leads on the board were cracked in the drop. It may not be apparent just looking at the board, but might become visible if you gently flex it. Since the processor seems to be running fine, focus on the end of the board from the boost circuit on.
It is possible that one or more traces or component leads on the board were cracked in the drop. It may not be apparent just looking at the board, but might become visible if you gently flex it. Since the processor seems to be running fine, focus on the end of the board from the boost circuit on.
- dub
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Re: Ice Tube clock stopped working
The old tube is cracked; the new one I did not yet solder into the side-PCB.adafruit_support wrote:And the tube still does not light?
Even if I had, is it safe to plug it in with the voltage so mach higher than normal?
(And there is a chance that it'll light somehow?!)
OK, I'll try that! Thanks!adafruit_support wrote: It is possible that one or more traces or component leads on the board were cracked in the drop. It may not be apparent just looking at the board, but might become visible if you gently flex it. Since the processor seems to be running fine, focus on the end of the board from the boost circuit on.
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Re: Ice Tube clock stopped working
The voltage is high, but the current is pretty low. It doesn't take much load to drag it down. That is why it typically drops when you install the VFD chip. The drop is quite variable, but 47v does not sound normal. Look it over carefully for breaks.
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Re: Ice Tube clock stopped working
I'm not sure if a high voltage while the tube is unconnected means anything. Boost converters with no loads operate at a higher voltage than they output when loaded.
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