CadSoftTech wrote:Hi To All,
CadSoft Computer has no intentions of going away from offering the Freeware version of EAGLE ... CadSoft Computer has supported the DIY, Electronic Enthusiast and Student community for over 21 years and we have no plans of slowing down any time soon.
I glad to hear that Eagle is still available in "freeware" form (I even changed subject to reflect that finding)
Also it is interesting that your 1st post on this forum is a reply to my statement :)
CadSoftTech wrote:Your initial statement is False. If you look closely at the recent brochure, this is an offering by Newark...We would greatly appreciate that you get all the facts before posting such information.
I believe that I'm a loyal user of Eagle for decade at least and I didn't go to any of your web-sites after Element14 bought CadSoft (I didn't even know that cadsoft.de still exists) so when I received this advertisement I got false impression only based on information printed in this official brochure (by the way it has 3 logos on it - CadSoft, Newark and Element14, so it does look like official Eagle advertisement) and this information is pretty clear: there are 3 types of Eagle (as before in good old times), but instead of "FREEWARE, STANDARD and PROFESSIONAL" it is "FREE 60-DAY TRIAL, STANDARD and PROFESSIONAL". So in this circumstances my initial statement was True! Logical enough? Then I was scared and confused - I wrote 1st post here and then tried to get more information - I opened URL from brochure http://www.newark.com/eagle
that goes to http://www.newark.com/cadsoft-computer-inc
that is offering Eagle as purely commercial software! But, at the right side of the page I noticed link "Download free version here" to ftp.cadsoft.de with version 5.6.0 for Windows. Nice, I thought, they are still offering old version as a freeware, so may be latest version 5.11 is purely commercial? Then I opened http://www.cadsoft.de
and saw that even 5.11 has "freeware" variant so I added message cadsoft.de still offers usual options including "freeware"
to my initial post. Then I googled for a while and found "freemium":
CadSoftTech wrote:The 60 day freemiun license now offers certain capabilities more than our typical freeware version.
Also I found that not only me got such impression after reading this brochure: http://www.electro-tech-online.com/memb ... eagle.html
So from my point of view hiding important information is a lie and YES, this brochure is definitely misleading, because it doesn't say anything about freeware version, even if Eagle still has free flavor somewhere in the Net. May be somebody in Farnell/Element14/Newark marketing department thought that "hiding" freeware version is good for profit, but truth is it's bad for old loyal customers - they (at least some of them) will be scared and slowly go away, and for getting new customers this tactic is also questionable...
In fact, we have announced that the next version of EAGLE will no longer be supporting Binary file formats for Board, Schematic and Library files. EAGLE V6 will support well documented XML files.
Please view the official anouncement by Make: http://www.element14.com/community/message/15751#15751
Anyway well documented format is good for community, because people will be able to convert their legacy boards to gEDA, I guess ;)
dbc wrote:gEDA and KiCAD are both open source. Why would any hobbyist use proprietary crippleware to begin with? It's way past time to dump Eagle and all the others. No open hardware project should be done on Eagle. Its counterproductive and dangerous.
Now I agree. Actually I use Linux exclusively and I even have gEDA everywhere already installed, but I use it only as a viewer to see designs from others. So may be it's time to start doing something in it instead of old good Eagle...
L.A.W wrote:Someone in customer service is a little snippy today. The OP may have been wrong, but this is not the proper 'tude to have with customers.
It's understandable - they probably answering phone for a few days already and everybody is asking the only question: "why did you stop offering freeware version?" :mrgreen: