Getting 9.01V at D3

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Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby pauldjagger » Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:48 pm

I've just completed building the IceTube my wife bought me for my birthday back in August. I assembled the whole clock before testing (silly) and found that the clock was inoperative once assembled. Now armed with the wisdom of hindsight I've carried out the three voltage tests indicated in the assembly instructions and find that I get 9.01V across D3. No idea what the cause may be, I've checked all the components for correct insertion and gone over the soldering with a magnifying glass - all seems to be correct.

Any ideas?
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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby adafruit_support_bill » Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:11 am

Are you hearing a beep at power up?

Post some photos of the front & back of the boards and we'll look for any assembly issues.
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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby pauldjagger » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:26 pm

There is no 'beep' or indeed any other indication of life in the IceTube aside from the various voltage tests. The tube certainly hasn't released its magic white smoke or anything dramatic / obvious like that.

I have attached a couple of photos as requested.

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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby adafruit_support_bill » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:32 pm

On the back of the smaller tube board, there should be a 4-digit number. What is the number on yours?
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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby pauldjagger » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:09 am

The 4 digit number on the PCB for the tube is 5010 (preceded by a '03').
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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby adafruit_support_bill » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:00 am

We have had some problems with boards from the 5010 series. We got rid of all that we could find, but it looks like yours was purchased back before we discovered the problem.

The problems are mostly due to missing grounds and some have managed to get them up and running with some diagnostic work and some jumpers. You are welcome to poke around more with this one if you like. But if you contact support@adafruit.com and tell them you have a 5010 series Ice Tube, we can ship you a new kit.

We are sorry for the inconvenience.
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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby pauldjagger » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:15 am

Ah - that would explain the mystery! Thanks, I'll contact support@adafruit.com, as it happens I was about to place an order for another item in any case.

Much appreciated.
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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby pauldjagger » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:21 am

I received my replacement Ice Tube and made up the PCB. I now get a 'beep' as soon as I power on the circuit (yippee). Since the replacement kit didn't include a new tube, but it did include the smaller PCB to which the tube is to be soldered I'm not clear on whether I am supposed to de-solder the tube from the 5010 marked mini-PCB and re-solder to the new mini-PCB?

I also note that the tube now has a crystalline white frosting at one end (see photo). Is this a problem?
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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby adafruit » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:13 am

just reuse the old tube, it looks fine
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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby pauldjagger » Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:24 pm

Ok, plugged the tube in with the old 5010 mini-PCB and... I get a 'beep' and can hear a 'click' whenever I press one of the configuration buttons but no illumination of the tube. Any suggestions?
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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby adafruit » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:15 pm

hm! can you post another nice piccy of the NEW pcb you made up? also the voltages when the tube isnt in?
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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby pauldjagger » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:47 pm

Ok, voltages are : 11.3V, 4.7V and ... 16.1V!!!

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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby adafruit_support_bill » Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:40 pm

Ok, voltages are : 11.3V, 4.7V and ... 16.1V!!!

Where exactly are these voltages measured?

On the solder side, it looks like a few of your joints are a little solder starved. There are a couple that look like they have not flowed well onto the solder pad too. Re-touch any suspicious looking joints with a clean, hot soldering iron.

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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby pauldjagger » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:05 pm

Ah, good question! The voltages were measured at the points, and in the sequence defined in the online assembly instructions. I will scan the PCB for solder starved joints and resolver them.

Any other suggestions would be welcome.
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Re: Getting 9.01V at D3

Postby adafruit_support_bill » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:50 pm

Are you using the supplied 9v adapter? 11.3v is quite a bit high for that.
4.7v is the bare minimum output for the 5v adapter. This is curious considering that the input is on the high side.
And just to confirm: The 16.1v is measured with the VFD chip installed but the tube removed?
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