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Postby controlvoltage » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:44 pm

a few pics from last night, where I was furiously trying to complete the IOpanel wiring for my mutant hellbeast of an x0x (actually not mine but being built at a loss for someone else). I should have realized it would take longer to add 5 new pots, 5 toggle switches, 2 momentary buttons and a 3-way selector switch, in addition to 10 I/O jacks... it started out simple but became a labor of love to see how much rule-age I could add to the b0X.

here are the pics, and then a rundown for the curious on what all the mods are/will be doing... I am waiting for the last of the parts from Mouser; they should be here Monday.

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List of mods:

Internal:

bass boost mod; carefully-selected transistors in key places (not a mod, but a good idea);adjustable amount of resonance boost on accent (trim pot on underside of mainboard). Also increased env. amount range, goes down to zero and up to 3x normal maximum amount.

I/O mods: CV outputs from the sequencer for Pitch and Gate (same as stock, now with 1/4" jacks), also Accent and Slide gate-CVs. CV Inputs for Gate, Accent, Slide, Pitch, and Filter Cutoff. New audio I/O is on a 1/4" stereo jack providing VCO out/VCF in, for a pre-filter effects loop or clean external audio into the filter/VCA. See my thread in x0xm0dz for more details. VCF input goes well with the "gate always-on" switch I added.


Panel/control mods:

Devilfish-esque VCO-to-Filter overdrive;
Accent duration control knob.
VCO->VCF FM, has FM amount knob and FM waveform selector switch;
Resonance Boost switch, with trimmer for setting boost amount
Gate always on switch - VCA wide open with infinite sustain. Good for bubbling liquid legato lines or external filter processing. Filter falls to minimum unless you are using my envelope mutator, or hit the:
Momentary Gate-Retrigger button; this fires off the main envelope generator when pressed, so you can inject some variety into always-on lines or just goose the sequence when you want.
momentary Accent-on button, similar principle as above, fire an Accent on demand.

Envelope Mutator - my own little street-style RC envelope circuit, takes in a +5V pulse and bleeds it to ground thru a variable resistance. This is then applied to filter cutoff, where it interacts with all the other filter mods to create delicious new flavors of groove. The source is selectable between Gate (all notes trigger the env mutator), Accent, and Slide triggers via a miniature 3pos. rotary switch; there is a mutation on/off switch, a Mutation Duration knob, variable between ~5 milliseconds and 5 seconds, and I am about to add a Mutation Amount knob for added subtlety. Right now it is either off or full-on.

I think that's about it... still to be done are the momentary switches when the parts get here, and drilling the panel for the controls. The jack panel isn't perfectly machined but I might fine-tune it... or leave it looking a little DIY, which it certainly is. It should be finished up sometime next week! Sound samples when I get a chance. It sounds.... mighty good. :)

edit: here is a half-arsed sound sample... unfortunately the envelope mutator is not fully installed w/level control so it gets out of hand... also no momentary buttons yet so the legato/drone sections are not what they will be soon. But, bandwidth is cheap these days, so here's 10 mins of impromptu tweaking on stuff.

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Postby mome rath » Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:15 pm

cripes :o
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Postby sash » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:35 am

impressive work !
i'm interested in doing the devil-fishesque overdrive vco to filter if it's the dry crispy plastic sound we hear on your mp3.
How did you make it exactly ? Is there a potentiometer for overdrive amount or is it an on/off switch ? Have you posted something about it somewhere ?
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Postby stevenclements » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:33 am

dang! looks impressive... sounds dandy too :shock:
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Postby bcbox » Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:04 am

Nice Job! You obviously know your way around the 303 schematic. Sometimes it looks easier on paper with these mostly patch-in mods but there are a lot of logistical things and time consuming work involved to get it done, so I can definitely see all your hard work..., and an mp3 to boot. From experience I can also say that all your mods are worthwhile ones, no fluff.
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Postby rcl » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:32 am

Looks awesome and I can't wait to hear the sound clips. I'm looking in to doing a few of those mods but have been a bit hesitant (and busy) to drill all the holes in the enclosure..

one maybe stupid question though, isn't bubble wrap really dangerous to work on due to ESD?

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Postby controlvoltage » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:15 pm

Hi all,

Thanks for the comments so far and I will try to answer as many questions as I can...

The VCO->Filter overdrive uses a 1meg pot to control the VCO level into the filter, if I recall correctly; it is definitely a continuous control and not just an on/off mod. Done more-or-less exactly as per the instructions on JOnnay's x0xd0x wiki (which I highly recommend). It's hard to tell if it is the dry plasticky sound you were hearing; actually I find that this overdrive tends to strip away higher harmonics and leave just the warm, meaty bass tones when it is fully cranked. Small amounts of overdrive definitely juice up the sound and add a nice edge, when that is what you are after. :)

The bubble wrap is actually static-dissipative (hence the pink color) so it is not an ESD risk. However, I do not do most of my electronic work on the bubble wrap.

bcbox: Thanks a bunch! Hey, aren't you the guy who posted an ambitious 303 ultramod, with extra oscillators and LFOs and such on a big pile of daughterboards? That project is cool as hell... Anyway you are right about the "no fluff" comment; I had limited room for knobbage and picked only the most effective mods I could find/think of. As for logistical work, definitely... that has been one of the most time-consuming aspects. I actually ended up using a CMOS logic chip and switching IC to deal with some of my CV gates and momentary buttons... there's more going on than meets the eye. ;)

Cheers, and more mp3s to follow! I definitely want to showcase the mind-expanding awesomeness of the filter audio input. When I was testing it I was watching a David Attenborough nature documentary in the background... I ran the documentary audio into the VCF input and turned on the sequencer, and I swear the Orb came out the other side! :D

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Postby bcbox » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:07 pm

Hey you're on the matrixsynth blog page! That's cool.

I actually ended up using a CMOS logic chip and switching IC to deal with some of my CV gates and momentary buttons... there's more going on than meets the eye
I didn't mean to make the mods sound simple - my comment about 'patch-in' mods may have made it sound that way. Certainly there's plently going on - sorry if I made it sound that way :wink:

When I was testing it I was watching a David Attenborough nature documentary in the background...
That's funny. Why does that guys voice just make everyone go nuts with synths.

bcbox: Thanks a bunch! Hey, aren't you the guy who posted an ambitious 303
yes I am still working on it. I'm actually going to be selling the mod for 303's (and maybe x0xb0x thereafter). It just takes hundreds of hours and it's so hard with a full-time job to get everything tested. 90% of my time is spent designing and testing circuits which I end end up axxing from the feature list because I don't feel they're warranted. Just a lot of testing. I'm about 80% done though. I just don't want to say a word about availability or anything until it's done.

and more mp3s to follow!
Don't forget to post more mp3's as you go!
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Postby controlvoltage » Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:26 pm

bcbox wrote:I didn't mean to make the mods sound simple ... Certainly there's plently going on - sorry if I made it sound that way :wink:


?? Oh not at all... and I wasn't meaning to come across defensively. :) Just mentioning another tricky little detail I had not noted previously; in fact agreeing with your original comment (may look simple but takes mad time to do)... the internet can kill nuances like that all too easily.
bcbox wrote:When I was testing it I was watching a David Attenborough nature documentary in the background...
That's funny. Why does that guys voice just make everyone go nuts with synths.
-- I don't know, but I've abused his talents before. Here's a little number with an entertaining out-of-context Attenborough quotation (no x0x content though... YET(!) >> http://the-auditorium.net/viewtopic.php?t=2287
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and more mp3s to follow!
Don't forget to post more mp3's as you go!

yes more mp3's will be forthcoming. There was a power outage today that more or less killed my work time... and I have band practice tomorrow... trust me I know what it is like to have a project take too long due to too little time. I have probably 100 hrs in this one now, also due to designing/testing original mods and reinventing wheels... I am working full time and about to start back to school, so anything remotely like free time is running rather short at the moment.

More soon,

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w00t it's done!

Postby controlvoltage » Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:44 pm

x0x #095 is now complete! Observe the awesomeosity.

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I have recorded some more sound samples but I'll need to dig them up from the datapile... I don't have time to go looking at the moment. I have to say though, I am sorry to see this one go. I'll really miss the little guy. It is already on the way to Los Angeles to be with its real owner...

That's OK though, I have two more b0xen lined up to build and they will draw on this experience to be even better. One of the ones yet to be built is for me to keep... I will probably put it in a completely new case with new front panel and mil-spec ultra long life potentiometers... for maximal tweakage. :D
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Postby stevenclements » Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:28 am

that is a thing of beauty my good man!

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Postby booster » Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:23 am

Wow!!

Looks like alot of work went into that.
I'd be very interested in hearing some of the sounds that thing makes with all those mods.
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Postby AngryChef » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:46 pm

controlvoltage- Any chance you'll drop the mod rundown on Jonnay's wiki? I would love to see a solid set of articles for the wiki. I could even help you edit them, if you like (as I have stated as being my skill on the wiki's user page :) ). You could even make a whole separate page with each of the individual mods on it like the x0x:devilfish page, but expand it out with instructions. :D
I think I have listened to the first sample that you dropped at least 20 times. It is musically delicious!
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Postby controlvoltage » Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:45 am

Hey all :)

Regarding the mods, they are mostly either sourced from Jonnay's wiki to begin with, or I have already posted them there as I went along. I have not documented a couple of the more complicated mods, as they only exist in hardware and as some sketches in a notebook... I hope the sketches are accurate; I'll try to post them when I have time.

Meanwhile I rummaged thru my hard drives this evening and pulled out some crazy sound samples...

Do you want to listen to the same pattern being tweaked for seven straight minutes?
Sure, we all do!

The first three clips are taken from a 30-minute tweakfest, just after installing the first-draft envelope mutator circuit. It did not yet have an amount control, so when you hear it it is full-on; usually too much. You will hear it as a sudden slapping of the cutoff frequency, with its own timing independent of the main envelope. Also I have to apologise for the tuning being a little bit sour... I had not yet dialed it in when these recordings were made. It was close enough for fun. :D

In the first clip (the longest) I mainly focus on wet, liquid acid filter squelches with FM snarls... although about 3:30 there is a section of percussive dry bass.

The second clip is 'ardcore distortion from the filter overdrive. It sounds like velcro plastic sandpaper.

The third clip is a long droning filter sweep, showcasing the resonance boost (filter into self-oscillation), filter FM, and of course the gate-always-on function. This one is pure x0x zen.

the first clip [7:20]

the second clip [3:03]

the third clip [2:48]


OK, now the fourth and fifth clips are this x0xb0x playing with the first prototype Moogerfooger FreqBox. I must have one when they come out... that and a little extra CV processing and you have the acid combo from hell. Check out these crude beginnings and you'll hear what I mean.

Background info: The freqbox is a voltage-controlled oscillator disguised as an effect pedal. It has an audio input and you can hard-sync the Freqbox oscillator to the incoming audio. You can also modulate the osc. frequency by the incoming audio (FM) and you can do both of these things at the same time. There are voltage control inputs for the oscillator pitch, waveform, FM amount, and wet/dry mix; the Freqbox also has an envelope follower with its own CV output.

In these clips I have the pitch of the FreqBox driven by the x0xb0x pitch-CV, and the gate-CV from the x0x is connected to the FreqBox WAVEFORM input. This would have worked perfectly if I'd had an inverter, because +5V to the Waveform input sweeps the waveform all the way to a 0% duty-cycle pulse wave, AKA silence... so if you have no VCA to plug the freqbox into, you can still gate its output by using the waveform CV. The only problem with this setup is that my patch silenced the Freqbox oscillator whenever the Gate-CV was HIGH, meaning exactly when the x0x was playing a note. So, you get this odd stutter-shuffle effect at times where the Freqbox oscillator start just as the x0x stops, perfectly in sync but off beat. Freaky.

The fourth clip demonstrates sync, unison via pitch-cv, and interval detuning... noodly fun.

In the last clip, I turn loose the full fury of the FreqBox on the x0x... it looks like the FreqBox is going to be the victor as the battle threatens to destroy the sonic universe... but then the x0x comes back with a blast of scorching acid strong enough to grind the FreqBox into submission. If this one had proper timing on the gate-CVs it would be unstoppable.

the fourth clip [1:10]

the last clip [3:03]
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Postby AngryChef » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:19 am

*slaps forehead* Typical of me, my hasty reading causes me to conveniently miss critical bits of information. Well, I have a PCB set on the way and hopefully I can get a kit. I'd like to build the basic kit and then build a custom (maybe using the aluminum case that has seen a great deal of discussion here) version with a pile of mods for ca-noodling with or even slaving to the O.G. x0x using the parts that are on order right now. :twisted:

controlvoltage - Keep up the awesome!
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