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RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]
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RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

by rfidquestion on Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:10 pm

Hello Adafruit,

I purchased your reader with the intention to read a hid rfid card. I can not seem to do this. Any advice, input, anything?

The HID Card is iClass and the same frequency. Even getting garbled junk would be better than nothing.

Thanks
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Re: RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

by adafruit on Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:55 pm

what frequency and protocol are the HID cards

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Re: RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

by rfidquestion on Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:07 pm

adafruit wrote:what frequency and protocol are the HID cards


The card is 13.56khz and it is an iClass protocol. It should be reading.
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Re: RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

by adafruit on Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:21 pm

does the included card work?

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Re: RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

by rfidquestion on Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:10 pm

Yes, I can read the MiFare card but not a similar iClass card.
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Re: RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

by ktownsend on Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:57 am

I believe iClass cards are ISO14443B which is supported by the PN532, but not having any cards I really can't offer any specific advice because I've never come across them. Someone on the libnfc forum might be able to offer some experience using these cards, but everyone I've worked with uses Mifare, and most of the libnfc comments tend to revolve around that well-understood card family.

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Re: RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

by ToySldr on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:22 pm

I'm going to order the shield with the intention of reading/writing my personal iClass card. Has anybody had any progress with this?
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Re: RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

by wilsonajdesign on Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:13 pm

It looks like this issue is still outstanding.
Has anyone within Adafruit or outside been able to read HID iClass 13.56MHz with the reader you sell?

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Re: RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

by adafruit_support_mike on Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:24 am

We don't have any plans to add support for ISO14443B to the PN532 library.

It's a question of code size. It takes a certain amount of code to support each protocol, and the bigger the library gets the less room is available for other code.

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Re: RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

by Hoggins on Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:45 am

Hello,

Seems that the subject is fairly old. I'm also interested, I just need to read an UID from an iClass SE card. Not more.
And it looks like it's not possible with the PN532 implementation of Adafruit.

Noob question : when @adafruit_support_mike states that adding the code takes room, do you mean that you have actually flashed some kind of firmware into the PN532 chip ? Phillips states that ISO14443B is supported by the chip, so I believe there is such a thing.

Another question : @rfidquestion, did you have any success, maybe with other tools, except from buying the quite expensive readers from HID ?

Thanks !

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Re: RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

by adafruit_support_mike on Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:11 am

No, I'm talking about the code running on the Arduino Uno.

The Uno has 32k of Flash program memory and 2k of RAM. A full NFC stack would be too big to fit into that. As it is, the NFC code doesn't run on older versions of the Arduino that use the ATmega168, which only has 1k of RAM.

Not only does the code have to be small enough to fit in the microcontroller, it has to leave enough room for people to add their own code. Our NFC programmers had to choose a set of operations that offer reasonably complete access to the card while still hitting the size requirements.

The PN532 itself will happily talk to cards with other formats, and if you connect it to a Linux machine like a RasPi, you can use the full version of libnfc.

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