RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

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RFID Reader Can't Read HID Cards [URGENT!]

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Hello Adafruit,

I purchased your reader with the intention to read a hid rfid card. I can not seem to do this. Any advice, input, anything?

The HID Card is iClass and the same frequency. Even getting garbled junk would be better than nothing.

Thanks

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what frequency and protocol are the HID cards

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adafruit wrote:what frequency and protocol are the HID cards
The card is 13.56khz and it is an iClass protocol. It should be reading.

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does the included card work?

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Yes, I can read the MiFare card but not a similar iClass card.

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I believe iClass cards are ISO14443B which is supported by the PN532, but not having any cards I really can't offer any specific advice because I've never come across them. Someone on the libnfc forum might be able to offer some experience using these cards, but everyone I've worked with uses Mifare, and most of the libnfc comments tend to revolve around that well-understood card family.

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I'm going to order the shield with the intention of reading/writing my personal iClass card. Has anybody had any progress with this?

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Post by wilsonajdesign »

It looks like this issue is still outstanding.
Has anyone within Adafruit or outside been able to read HID iClass 13.56MHz with the reader you sell?

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We don't have any plans to add support for ISO14443B to the PN532 library.

It's a question of code size. It takes a certain amount of code to support each protocol, and the bigger the library gets the less room is available for other code.

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Post by Hoggins »

Hello,

Seems that the subject is fairly old. I'm also interested, I just need to read an UID from an iClass SE card. Not more.
And it looks like it's not possible with the PN532 implementation of Adafruit.

Noob question : when @adafruit_support_mike states that adding the code takes room, do you mean that you have actually flashed some kind of firmware into the PN532 chip ? Phillips states that ISO14443B is supported by the chip, so I believe there is such a thing.

Another question : @rfidquestion, did you have any success, maybe with other tools, except from buying the quite expensive readers from HID ?

Thanks !

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No, I'm talking about the code running on the Arduino Uno.

The Uno has 32k of Flash program memory and 2k of RAM. A full NFC stack would be too big to fit into that. As it is, the NFC code doesn't run on older versions of the Arduino that use the ATmega168, which only has 1k of RAM.

Not only does the code have to be small enough to fit in the microcontroller, it has to leave enough room for people to add their own code. Our NFC programmers had to choose a set of operations that offer reasonably complete access to the card while still hitting the size requirements.

The PN532 itself will happily talk to cards with other formats, and if you connect it to a Linux machine like a RasPi, you can use the full version of libnfc.

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Post by jsrijith »

Sorry to bring back this old thread.
I am working on a project to read ISO 14443 Type B Cards.
Looks like NFC lib do not support Type B cards out of the box, however the NFC reader supports both TypeA and TypeB.
Any workarounds available to make the Type B card work???

Thanks and Regards
Srijith

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Unfortunately, no. You'd have to write another whole library.

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I'm using a Raspberry PI 3 B and RFID RC522 board. The whole point of the effort is to control some hardware after reading iClass HID cards. Right now, the setup reads other cards, just not the IClass HID. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Right now, I'm testing using Python, but C/C++ or Java would be fine. Thx

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