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Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue
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Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by nicolask on Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:46 pm

Hi, I ordered an ice tube clock (confirmation number included below) from you in August of last year and have only just gotten around to assembling it. The tube is giving me exactly the same issue as described in the followingthreadon your support forum. I've verified that the transistor I have for Q3 is a ZVP3306A, additionally I've re-soldered all the connections for the tube and VFD chip, and that hasn't changed the display. I've included a photo of the display, and I was hoping it would be possible to have a replacement transistor sent out to me. If you require any further information please let me know!

Order Confirmation No: 559866-2625068701


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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by adafruit_support_bill on Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:54 pm

Please contact support@adafruit.com with a link to this thread and we can send a replacement.

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by nicolask on Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:57 pm

Hi Bill,

I've received the transistor (thank you!) and installed it on the clock board. However, now when I plug it in, the board doesn't beep and the display doesn't light up. I've verified the 5V power is coming in as it should and I'm getting the correct numbers there. Everything else I've read on this board suggests its an issue with chip if the buzzer isn't sounding. Is there any other steps I should check to verify?

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by adafruit_support_bill on Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:44 am

Please post photos of the front and back of the main board and the soldering on the tube board.

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by jarchie on Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:07 am

As Adafruit_Support_Bill wrote, posting photos of the front and back of the main board is the best next step. A few other things might be worth trying:

(1) With the clock powered, touch the resettable fuse. Is it warm?

(2) Try powering up the clock with the tube assembly removed, does the clock beep normally?

(3) Solder rosin can occasionally conduct when the rosin is burnt through board rework. If you can see discolored rosin around Q3, unplug the clock and remove the battery. Scrub the area around Q3 with alcohol and a toothbrush until clean. Rinse with the alcohol, and wait for the board to dry completely before powering the board. Does it beep then?

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by nicolask on Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:42 pm

Hi there, apologies for the delay in replying! Got caught up in schoolwork and haven't had a lot of free time. I've attached photos of the front and back of the board as requested. During the initial build before I replaced the transistor, the clock passed all the checks mentioned in the build guides (ie: proper voltage levels, beep on plugin etc.). If you need anything else please let me know!

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by adafruit_support_bill on Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:55 am

Thanks for the photos. I don't see any obvious issues with the assembly. Have you tried jarchie's diagnostic suggestions posted above?

As Adafruit_Support_Bill wrote, posting photos of the front and back of the main board is the best next step. A few other things might be worth trying:

(1) With the clock powered, touch the resettable fuse. Is it warm?

(2) Try powering up the clock with the tube assembly removed, does the clock beep normally?

(3) Solder rosin can occasionally conduct when the rosin is burnt through board rework. If you can see discolored rosin around Q3, unplug the clock and remove the battery. Scrub the area around Q3 with alcohol and a toothbrush until clean. Rinse with the alcohol, and wait for the board to dry completely before powering the board. Does it beep then?

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by nicolask on Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:21 pm

Hi Bill,

Again apologies for the long response. I've tested the board without the tube and it beeps normally when I plug it in, additionally the fuse is not warm.

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by MikeHg on Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:56 am

If it is not the clock itself it could also be the wiring of the tube. Could you please post a photo of the tube PCB?

Regards,
Mike

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by adafruit_support_bill on Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:25 am

No beep indicates that the processor is not running anymore. Let's re-verify that you still have a solid 5v coming from the regulator.

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by jarchie on Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:19 pm

Another good diagnostic would be to measure the voltage on all three pins of Q3, both with the tube inserted and with the tube removed.

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by nicolask on Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:09 pm

Hi, I've attached a photo of the soldering connection to the clock tube. Additionally I read a voltage of 4.71 volts across the pins of the transistor.
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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by nicolask on Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:11 pm

Sorry, to clarify the 4.71 volts is without the clock tube attached. With the clock tube attached I read a voltage of 4.02 volts

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by nicolask on Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:02 pm

Happy to report I've managed to get the display working! It lit up after I cleaned the board with some isopropyl alcohol and retouched a couple of the soldering joints to the tube. Not too sure which of those fixed it, but happy to have it working!

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Re: Ice Tube Clock Transistor Display Issue

by adafruit_support_bill on Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:19 pm

That is good to hear! Thanks for the follow-up.

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