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2G going away -what to do?
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2G going away -what to do?

by KFbuilder32 on Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:53 pm

I was about to order a TING 2G sim card for a project and noticed the warning that 2G is going away throughout this year. I talked to TING (very personable support) and they confirmed that their current GSM sim card is for a 4G LTE GSM system. This is all Greek to me so I'm playing catch up in learning a new language. All I need is a simple, low cost FONA to integrate with a PiZero Budget Pack to turn a switch on and off and will work with the current TING offering. TING also said that if I can get the (banned word??) # for the device I can verify that it will work on their system (https://ting.com/mobile/check_device). Any suggestions or help will be appreciated.

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by rskup on Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:14 am

I wish Adafruit had a FONA 4G (as I really like my FONA 3G, #2687), but if they do I sure haven't found it. However, they do carry LTE products, like the Boron LTE, #3998. Just search "LTE" to see them all.

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by siddacious on Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:49 pm

KFbuilder32: Did you try to say : eye emm eee eye?

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by KFbuilder32 on Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:29 pm

Yes sir - didn't know it to be a bad word until now. :)

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by jayrabe on Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:04 pm

Why is it a bad word?

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by KFbuilder32 on Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:25 pm

I typed it as it is normally written and the system wouldn't allow the message to go because it was an "bad" word. (I forget what it claimed I.M.E. I to be but it was equivalent to being a bad word.)

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by siddacious on Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:13 pm

We've had to ban a number of words due to someone spamming the forum with ads for all sorts of stuff which is probably why. I'll refer to that type of number as "Shpongle" for now.

As far as I understand, your shpongle is associated with the SIM card so I'm not sure how you'd check something that you don't have yet.

I would suggest emailing support@adafruit.com and explain that you're trying verify with ting that the SIM will work before you purchase one and they can let you know what your options are.

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by KFbuilder32 on Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:03 pm

Thanks - I've sent them an email.

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by KFbuilder32 on Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:51 pm

No reply to my email as of yet.

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by KFbuilder32 on Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:33 am

18 Nov 2020 - still no response to my email. Hmmmmm.

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by jensa on Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:00 pm

I would like to second the wish of @KFbuilder32. Adafruit really should make a 4G LTE FONA module. Due to 2G getting turned off in 2025 and 3G already being turned off in Europe it's a requirement and a true void in Adafruit's portefolio.

I have used these these SIM7600E-H modules as my current solution with this library but I would much rather get an Adafruit supported FONA board. The Chinese 7600 modules work, but the software solution is poor and the support is non existent. The SIM7500 and SIM7600 series behave quite similar, so it should be fairly easy to create a product based on these. One problem I can see is the module size. They are 32 x 32mm (1.26 x 1.26 inch) so they won't fit on a Feather. Would still be a good solution as a breakout and Arduino module.

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by hsusmann on Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:12 pm

I am very confused as to what I need to get a cell phone data connection set up with adafruit.io.
I read that the old FONA 800 and/or 808 adafruit boards will no longer work in the US after the
end of 2020 because they use the old 2G network which will no longer be supported I guess
by anyone after 2020?

First of all, is this correct?

If correct, I can go with an adafruit 3G Fona board but I read in the product description
that the arduino library support is not finished yet. Is this correct? There is no date associated
with that part of the description so don't know if this is old information or not.

Bottom line is, if I buy an adafruit 3G Fona breakout board will I be able to send data
to adafruit.io via MQTT? If so, what SIM card do I need to get that won't be phased out any time
soon.

Thanks!
Herb, Ithaca NY

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by adafruit2 on Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:56 pm

We don't have a great solution right now, we have to do investigation into LTE modules - you could try using Particle cellular boards - tht would be using their own service for now

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Re: 2G going away -what to do?

by KFbuilder32 on Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:08 pm

After several weeks without a response to my email I short circuited the problem and bought a commercial unit. Hated to do so as I was looking forward to the learning experience. Such is life. Thanks for all of the responses.

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