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THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse
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THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by ksprayberry on Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:28 pm

I've edited my secrets.json file with my credentials and wifi information, rebooted my device, but the console shows that it is "offline" however, I get a notice that "THROTTLE WARNING: ksprayberry data rate limit reached, 5 seconds until throttle released" I've tried the pushbutton and the LED add components, but they do not work. When I boot the device, the neopixels go from cyan to blue to amber and stay amber, then I notice I get the throttle warning. but when I take it to the back room, further from the wifi router, my pixels are cyan and stay cyan, the device shows that it is still offline, but I do not get a throttle warning. I watched for them to blink 3 times indicating that it was online, but I have not seen them blink. using the most current adafruit-wippersnapper-esp32s2-funhouse-1-0-0-beta.3.uf2 file. I believe my credentials are correct, but I'm confused. This seems backwards from what I understood.
Thanks!

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by mikeysklar on Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:39 pm

@ksprayberry,

You are publishing data too quickly if you are seeing THROTTLE WARNINGs.

https://io.adafruit.com/api/docs/mqtt.h ... e-limiting

Try adding a sleep / delay and limiting updates to less than two requests a second.

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by ksprayberry on Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:50 pm

Ok, I’ll try to figure out what I’m doing wrong. I’m not understanding how it’s sampling data too fast. It never shows to be online, but after reading, it is going through the process correctly. It turns cyan for WIFi, then blue to say it’s connected to my Adafruit IO, then turns amber and then I get the throttling notice. I’ve just tried the LED component with wippersnapper, it looks like you have to move the led switch on the webpage to send data, and I’m not moving it. Maybe I will try to delete it all and start over.
Thanks

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by brubell on Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:41 am

Do you have an IO Free account, or IO Plus?

@Mikeysklar - Unlike IO, the Adafruit IO WipperSnapper application should handle throttling/data rate limits for a user.

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by ksprayberry on Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:55 am

I have the free account. If I need to, I can probably upgrade to the plus account if that solves it. Thanks!

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by SandPig on Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:18 am

I've encountered the same issue. Funhouse LEDs never leave the amber state, but my rates are well past 60/min.
The device shows up in the wipper snapper dash, but never leaves an "offline" state.

live connection responds as expected when the device is toggled off/on
"
2021/08/11 12:10:30AM
io-wipper-adafruit-funhouse-esp3
connected
2021/08/11 12:10:20AM
io-wipper-adafruit-funhouse-esp3
disconnected
"

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by brubell on Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:37 am

@SandPig Do you have an Adafruit IO or Adafruit IO Plus account?

What are the contents of the wippersnapper-boot-out.txt text file on the WIPPER drive?

Could you use Arduino's Serial monitor and open it? It'd give me some more information about what's happening on the device.

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by ksprayberry on Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:01 pm

SandPig wrote:I've encountered the same issue. Funhouse LEDs never leave the amber state, but my rates are well past 60/min.
The device shows up in the wipper snapper dash, but never leaves an "offline" state.

live connection responds as expected when the device is toggled off/on
"
2021/08/11 12:10:30AM
io-wipper-adafruit-funhouse-esp3
connected
2021/08/11 12:10:20AM
io-wipper-adafruit-funhouse-esp3
disconnected
"


Pretty much the same as mine. Thanks for confirming It wasn’t just me.

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by SandPig on Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:01 pm

IO Plus*

wipper_boot_out:
1.0.0-beta.3

from the serial:
13:53:09.470 -> Connected!
13:53:09.470 -> Connecting to Wippersnapper MQTT...MQTT Connection Established!
13:53:09.470 -> Registering Board...
13:53:09.470 -> registerBoard()
13:53:09.470 -> Encoding registration message...Encoded!
13:53:09.470 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
13:53:09.762 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
13:53:09.762 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
13:53:10.089 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
13:53:10.089 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
13:53:10.422 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
13:53:10.422 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
13:53:10.495 -> IO Throttle Error: "SandPig data rate limit reached, 1 seconds until throttle released"
13:53:10.679 -> Delaying for: 1000
13:53:10.679 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
13:53:10.679 -> IO Throttle Error: "SandPig data rate limit reached, 1 seconds until throttle released"
13:53:10.824 -> Delaying for: 1000
13:53:10.824 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
13:53:10.824 -> IO Throttle Error: "SandPig data rate limit reached, 2 seconds until throttle released"
13:53:10.970 -> Delaying for: 2000
13:53:10.970 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
13:53:10.970 -> IO Throttle Error: "SandPig data rate limit reached, 3 seconds until throttle released"
13:53:11.123 -> Delaying for: 3000
13:53:11.123 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
13:53:11.123 -> IO Throttle Error: "SandPig data rate limit reached, 4 seconds until throttle released"
13:53:15.289 -> Delaying for: 4000
13:53:15.289 -> Delaying...
rinse/repeat

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by SandPig on Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:54 pm

so here's the serial output with beta.4
Roughly the same experience from the AdafruitIO portal (save the throttle alerts)
If you'd like any additional info/tests, please let me know and I'll do what I can.


1:40:25.246 -> Registering Board...
11:40:25.246 -> registerBoard()
11:40:25.246 -> Encoding registration message...Encoded!
11:40:35.359 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
11:40:35.359 -> Publishing registration message...ERROR: Please define a network interface!
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— sip coffee —

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--- reboot ---

interesting, eh?

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by brubell on Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:58 pm

Ok, thank you so much for reporting this issue and testing it. I saw this occur on a device just now as well and believe I patched the culprit.

Beta.5 is available for download now and should fix the registration issue you're experiencing.

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by SandPig on Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:41 am

beta.5 has the same (or similar) issue
1.0.0-beta.5 on funhouse

8:27:42.239 -> Registering Board...
08:27:42.239 -> registerBoard()
08:27:42.239 -> Encoding registration message...Encoded!
08:27:52.358 -> Publishing registration message...Published!
08:27:52.358 -> Publishing registration message...ERROR: Please define a network interface!
08:27:52.358 -> ERROR: Please define a network interface!
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I am happy to report beta.5 seems to be working great on magtag and MetroS2
I'll also try to make some time for the PyPortal and M4airlift boards this weekend, too - no guarantees

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by brubell on Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:32 pm

UPDATE: Beta.6 has been released and contains a fix for this issue.

If you are still experiencing this issue, please let us know! If you encounter a new issue, please submit a new ticket/forum post and we'll get to it.

Thanks!

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by ksprayberry on Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:54 pm

I loaded update 6. My device does connect, my lights went through the connection cycle, cyan, blue, and then amber, but my device shows offline on the wippersnapper page. I can look at my profile/monitor and see that it connected for 7 seconds and then disconnected. I created two components, the LED on/off and then the push button up trying to see if they would work, but it does not stay connected.

thanks
kelly

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Re: THROTTLE WARNING: with Wippersnapper/Funhouse

by SandPig on Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:09 pm

beta.6 did stop the throttle issue. I'll mark that as a victory.
... but the war continues. I will create a new post for issues with beta.6

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