I've just noticed that Fuzebox kit is now shown as V1. Does that mean we can expect a Fuzebox V2 soon
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Fuzebox V2?
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Re: Fuzebox V2?
sadly there is a 'forced' redesign in the works because the SNES connectors are very hard to find. i will try to figure somethin' out :/
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Re: Fuzebox V2?
What are you planning to use to replace the SNES connectors? The supply of multitaps here in the UK seems to have dried up completely . I know Parallax stock the vertical NES connector but I prefer the horizontal SNES style.ladyada wrote:sadly there is a 'forced' redesign in the works because the SNES connectors are very hard to find. i will try to figure somethin' out :/
I've been thinking about cutting the SNES/NES plugs off the joypads and replacing them with a 9-way D plug and use a 9-way D socket on my PCB. I was also thinking about making the 9-way pinout Atari / Commodore joystick compatible to get that real "oldskool" look and experience
Atari Pinout
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\ o5 o4 o3 o2 o1/
\ o9 o8 o7 o6 /
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Pin Joystick
1 Forward
2 Back
3 Left
4 Right
5 -
6 Button 1
7 +5V *
8 GND
9 -
NES/SNES Pinout
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|(1) (2) (3) (4) | (5) (6) (7) |
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Pin Joypad
1 +5V
2 CLK
3 LATCH
4 DATA
5 N/C
6 N/C
7 GND
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Pin Joystick SNES
1 Forward CLK
2 Back LATCH
3 Left DATA
4 Right N/C
5 - N/C
6 Button 1 N/C
7 +5V * +5V
8 GND GND
9 - N/C
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Re: Fuzebox V2?
I seriously think compatibility is important here. The Uzebox/Fuzebox community is small but growing and dividing it with incompatible inputs and forcing coders to supports multiple configurations could only hamper that growth.
The best solution I can see is using the often proposed twin 4021 shift registers. They are cheap, don't add much more complexity, could be optional for those with NES/SNES controller and would keep the design backward compatible. With a flag in the EEPROM the kernel could know we have a DB9 port with reduced button set and remap dynamically.
My $0.02...
-Uze
The best solution I can see is using the often proposed twin 4021 shift registers. They are cheap, don't add much more complexity, could be optional for those with NES/SNES controller and would keep the design backward compatible. With a flag in the EEPROM the kernel could know we have a DB9 port with reduced button set and remap dynamically.
My $0.02...
-Uze
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Re: Fuzebox V2?
Considering your name is in the box, I think your opinion might be worth a penny or two more. Backwards compatability is a good thing, if you ask me.
If anything, I would probably go with something in a molex or such, a similar connector to what the NES had, but something that wouldn't be confused with something else. I love 9-pin D-Subs, but they have enough uses already. Making Nintendo controllers with Atari-looking (but incompatible) plugs sounds like heartache waiting to happen.
Unless you make V2 work with Atari joysticks.
If anything, I would probably go with something in a molex or such, a similar connector to what the NES had, but something that wouldn't be confused with something else. I love 9-pin D-Subs, but they have enough uses already. Making Nintendo controllers with Atari-looking (but incompatible) plugs sounds like heartache waiting to happen.
Unless you make V2 work with Atari joysticks.
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Re: Fuzebox V2?
Although, now that I think of it, there's always the old-school way of keeping you from plugging in the wrong thing... Make them male (plug) -female (socket), instead of female-male!
But I still vote for "find another one".
But I still vote for "find another one".
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Re: Fuzebox V2?
i was thinking of just going with NES and keeping pads for SNES if someone finds them
what i should probably do is head over the the uzebox forums and see whats been discussed since then!
what i should probably do is head over the the uzebox forums and see whats been discussed since then!
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Re: Fuzebox V2?
Hi,
I was just wondering if we could get some more info on what your plans are. I sent an email in, and was told me to post on the forums.
The SNES controller ports aren't available anymore? Will FuzeBox v2.0 have an upgraded processor, or be 100% the same except for the inputs?
Are there plans to somehow get/build more SNES ports, or are you leaning some other direction now?
Oh, and I think it should be called FuzeBox 1.1 if almost nothing is changing.
For a FuzeBox 2.0, maybe we can get an xmega with 16KB of S-RAM? The 256KB flash one is only a few dollars more than an ATmega644, on Mouser.com, so by the hundreds it seems like a nice cheap upgrade. Who knows - with 16KB and 32mhz, maybe uze6666 could get his video player running at a higher res?
I was just wondering if we could get some more info on what your plans are. I sent an email in, and was told me to post on the forums.
The SNES controller ports aren't available anymore? Will FuzeBox v2.0 have an upgraded processor, or be 100% the same except for the inputs?
Are there plans to somehow get/build more SNES ports, or are you leaning some other direction now?
Oh, and I think it should be called FuzeBox 1.1 if almost nothing is changing.
For a FuzeBox 2.0, maybe we can get an xmega with 16KB of S-RAM? The 256KB flash one is only a few dollars more than an ATmega644, on Mouser.com, so by the hundreds it seems like a nice cheap upgrade. Who knows - with 16KB and 32mhz, maybe uze6666 could get his video player running at a higher res?
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Re: Fuzebox V2?
we have a replacement for the SNES ports
i like the use of the DIP chip so we'll be sticking with that for now
the '1284 will eventually come out
i like the use of the DIP chip so we'll be sticking with that for now
the '1284 will eventually come out
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Re: Fuzebox V2?
Pretty awesome stuff, I think I'll pick one of these up this weekend.
Regarding the processor upgrade to 1284 will that be as easy as popping in a new chip?
Regarding the processor upgrade to 1284 will that be as easy as popping in a new chip?
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Re: Fuzebox V2?
yes...once the chip is released!
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