A while back I purchased an Adafruit Radio + OLED bonnet (RFM69 or RFM9x) and a Feather RFM9x with a thought to explore the lora radio for long range ~ half a mile sensor devices.
Now finally starting to look at it and I am confused about some of the terminology. I see talk of lora, lorawan, and gateway devices. I have set up raspi gateways for wifi and xbee/zigbee but here there are discussions about using The Things Network. On the map from the TTN site I see a gateway is about 50 miles away, so... I'm not really interested in setting up an external setup unless I'm routing out to some API through a satellite (ugh) connection.
I thought that a lora gateway would run on a raspi just like the one I set up for xbee. I'd like to do the same only with lora radios. All the tutorials seem to indicate they're deprecated because of a protocol change with TTN. But I don't think I need TTN... Do I?
Then I see there is the idea of a concentrator. What is that? I see an 8 channel device from Adafruit but I never needed a multi-channel device for xbee; at least I don't recall that.
Is there some scenario where I can have a raspi/lora gateway and receive and send data to a dozen or more lora devices to open/close gates, track water trough levels, open/close water valves and manage things on a farm that is a little less than one mile long?
Thanks for any tips,
Chris.
Conceptual view of lora, gateway, lorawan, concentrator, TTN
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Re: Conceptual view of lora, gateway, lorawan, concentrator, TTN
Looking now at the adafruit learning article:
https://learn.adafruit.com/multi-device ... k/overview
It appears the deprecation is mainly about the connectivity to The Things Network (TTN). I don't think I need that for now.
To summarize what I found:
My home setup uses node-red on a raspi as the main controller, mostly using mqtt as the central protocol. I have another raspi for graphite/grafana charts, another as a dedicated xbee gateway, and another as a rocket-chat server (experimental). The system also manages old school X10 light switches, and esp8266 devices mostly in the Wemos D1 Mini form (w/ tasmota). So the lora gateway is just another radio protocol in which I will convert to mqtt as close up the chain as possible.
Now to learn how to transmit from node-red (using mqtt) to the raspi/lora gateway to a lora actuator endpoint. I suspect there's some trickery to interrupting the listening to execute a transmit.
Any tips on that would be appreciated.
Thanks.
https://learn.adafruit.com/multi-device ... k/overview
It appears the deprecation is mainly about the connectivity to The Things Network (TTN). I don't think I need that for now.
To summarize what I found:
- lora - radio, wireless modulation technique, long range, low power, slow, small packets
- gateway - manages radio packets in/out of system
- lorawan - network protocol, software layer which defines how devices use the LoRa hardware
- concentrator - ???
- TTN - The Things Network, a LoRaWAN Network Server https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/docs/l ... s-lorawan/
My home setup uses node-red on a raspi as the main controller, mostly using mqtt as the central protocol. I have another raspi for graphite/grafana charts, another as a dedicated xbee gateway, and another as a rocket-chat server (experimental). The system also manages old school X10 light switches, and esp8266 devices mostly in the Wemos D1 Mini form (w/ tasmota). So the lora gateway is just another radio protocol in which I will convert to mqtt as close up the chain as possible.
Now to learn how to transmit from node-red (using mqtt) to the raspi/lora gateway to a lora actuator endpoint. I suspect there's some trickery to interrupting the listening to execute a transmit.
Any tips on that would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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